Uberman sleep vs. Everyman sleep, Day minus 5

by Marc on December 18, 2008

A friend of mine (Judy) just told me yesterday that she had tried Everyman sleep (3 hours core sleep + 3 naps) successfully for a week and a half and the adaptation period / pain had been minimal.  She says she only fell off it after drinking alcohol.  I have asked her to comment to this post to share her experience.  In the meantime I have the following thoughts.

Given that Everyman reduces total sleep to 4 1/2 hours (versus my “normal” sleep of about 10 hours, and Uberman’s 3 hours), it occurs to me as a very acceptable alternative.  Also it has the huge advantage that one can do it while working full-time and it has less impact on social life.  Not to mention easier adaptation.  I am still personally drawn to Uberman however for the following reasons…

Success Factors & Motivation

  • For the same reasons as Steve Pavlina: I am simply curious, and the idea is sufficiently radical and even “weird” to be really inspiring to me.  And as I mentioned in my previous post, the greatest predictor of success in any venture is the degree to which it inspires / excites you.
  • Despite what PureDoxyk says (that only 2% succeed at Uberman), I have become convinced that it’s a lot easier than people think (and what the medical establishment and “sleep experts” write).  I am conjecturing that the main problem and reason people fail at Uberman is lack of understanding of the success factors, which seem to be (1) Good diet is key (raw foods is best and minimal or no commercial meat at worst);  (2) For Uberman, need to totally clear 2 weeks from one’s schedule.  Steve adapted after about a week but I think that is  ambitious, better to plan on two weeks; (3) It’s quite acceptable to take extra naps during adaptation, provided they are spaced no less than 2 hours apart and no more than 30 min. long; (4) Any kind of stimulant, including coffee and alcohol, is out. If you are attached to your stimulants, best forget about polyphasic altogether and avoid the disappointment. In my case specifically, I am totally addicted to coffee, everything I have tried to get off it has failed, so I am going to need a very compelling reason to quit. This is an added bonus for me.
  • The idea of being awake “all the time” really appeals to me.  Apparently it completely changes one’s perception and relationship to time.  This is important to me for personal reasons which I have also shared in my previous post.  And I also really like the idea of putting in a long work shift at night time (10-11 hours) and still having all day free.  If I am sleeping at night, even for just 3 hours, I am still somewhat busy with income generation tasks during the day. I think if I can successfully adapt to Uberman, it will be much much easier to change to Everyman later, in the case for example that I would get a full-time job again, which may be necessary for financial reasons.  And I would still have the benefit of having tried the Uberman and knowing if it can work for me.
  • Uberman is faster to adapt to (1-2 weeks vs. 1-2 months) however it is much more difficult.  I am the kind of person who likes to take his pain upfront and in heavy doses rather than to have it drag out for a longer time. I know it would be “wiser” to try Everyman first, and if that succeede to move on to Uberman, however “wisdom” is not a high value for me.  I like to live on the edge.
  • Last but not least, according both PureDoxyk and Steve Pavlina, Uberman causes profound changes in consciousness: “increased awareness / energy, sharpened senses, a feeling that the whole world is moving in slow motion and you’re not”, etc.  As a complete “experience junkie” and out to explore the “frontiers of consciosness”, I love that.

Those are all my thoughts for today.  I will look forward to what Judy has to say.

{ 4 comments… read them below or add one }

Judy December 20, 2008 at 4:24 am

I’ve been meaning to try this experiment again, but have put it on the back burner because of not having the resolve. However, Marc’s interest in trying the Uberman schedule is inspiring me to do it with him (the everyman schedule, since my work schedule won’t accommodate the uberman). It will definitely add some fun to the whole experience to share it. I have several days off of work this coming week, so this is an ideal time to start, except for holiday/birthday/new years indulgences in food and alchohol, which often put me to sleep. I think I had an easy time the first time I tried it simply because I was very well rested to start off, and because I allowed myself up to 4 hours for the night stretch. I’m sure I hadn’t gotten to the difficult adaptation period yet, because I was not falling asleep during my three daytime naps. My biggest concern starting it now, is that since it is winter my car will be uncomfortably cold, and I will have to take one to three naps in my car (before work, during lunch, and right after work). If I can find some sort of electric blanket that runs on batteries, that might help. Also, I only get one half hour for lunch, so that means I will have less than 10 minutes to eat something in a 10 hour work day. So I’m expecting I will have to adjust my eating habits as well, or eat more nuts at work. I love luxuriating in sleep, but I want to try the everyman because there are so many other things I’d like to do, but don’t make the time for. I’m planning to start off easy, giving myself 4-5 hours for the long stretch.

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Marc December 20, 2008 at 7:10 am

Hey Judy great to have company! I sleep fine in a car with the engine running and heater on, although it will cost you a bit in gas and not so good in the summer. Maybe you can shift one of the sleep shifts to home (either before or after work)? Also lunch is no problem, just make yourself a green shake and eat at your desk, it’s healthier as well.

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Nate February 22, 2009 at 1:09 am

Judy,
What can you tell me now about the adaptation to Everyman? I’m trying to adapt right now, but if I have to go through 1-2 months of pain to adapt, it’s not going to work (since I’m a student in the middle of a semester). Any tips on adapting quickly or with minimal pain? I’ve been severely stepping down my sleep in the last few days, but I’m not sure how I ought to do my naps so that they help me adapt better. Any ideas?
If you visit my blog and leave a comment anywhere, I’ll get it. Thanks!

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sean April 5, 2011 at 3:45 am

Hey mark, Thanks for your post, it was well done, I can identify with most of your reasoning, I too love the alone time at night and also i am an experience junki like you, any thing weird and out of ordinary that can improve my productivity sounds sexy to me :)

I am preparing to get this done myself however I m not sure how i can have 2 weeks off , because with my current schedule i am SUPER busy all the time,

I read in Steves post that it seemed that it took him 3 days to get used to it ? so i figured i can start it on thursday and by monday next week i should be normal to be able to work

any way thanks for your post im looking forward to trying this

sean

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